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Thursday, November 27, 2008

Happy Thanksgiving

Good morning and HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!!

Well that’s gotta be the most important thing of this note. It’s 7 am on Thanksgiving morning and we’re feeling pretty good. It’s a special day and I’m sure special things are going to be happening. I can hardly wait to meet Rich’s mom. I sure hope it goes ok. I don’t want to get on her bad list. I’m a little confused because of not knowing what Rich can put up with me telling her or not.

Hmm, we just talked to him about 2 minutes … we suggested that he hold up a finger if we were straying off in a direction he didn’t want us going, but he said that we have to be responsible for ourselves. He says his mother would see the finger and think he is controlling us. Well, like yeah! Ok, we didn’t want that, but I can already foresee a trip home where he’s telling me all the things that I did wrong.

Ok, good I checked that out … he promised he would be gentle. I can’t go too far wrong there then. Pswhoo.

He just opened the curtains so it’s a little cheerier here. He’s working on my computer in back of me now. He just got done fixing the turkey and stuffing and it’s in the magic oven. I think he said something about starting soup on the stove too. I swear I can smell turkey already. WooHOO. Ok, we’re not going to make ourselves overly nervous, so let’s try to creep away from all those thoughts for a bit k?

Mary nodded par-rum-pum-pum-pum… Hehehe

Ok, we’re back to the normal stuff. We brought up our floor plans … we need to figure out where we are with it today. I think … hmm, better check. Did we get through the whole house with you yesterday? Whoops left a note … we’re supposed to finish up on the upstairs and talk about Dr. Marvin. It looks like we ended up getting to the library part. There’s not really too much to tell after that … there is two more bedrooms. One on the other side of the library on the other side of the bathroom and the other one opposite the master bedroom right to the left of the front stairs as you’re walking up.

These last two rooms are going to have to be our guest rooms. As long as we’re imagining, I really want to imagine bedroom #4 being for the library as noted yesterday. There’s not as much privacy with the other bedrooms door being just across from the master and away from the upstairs hall bathroom, but it should be fine. There would still be a couple of doors shut. I don’t think we’re having sex if someone is sleeping over. We’ll be just like Mr. & Mrs. Beaver Cleaver. Yah that’s the way to go 

There’s something else to be mentioning now because we’re about to wrap up our first tour with you with the new house. Between the two bedrooms just stated is the stairs, but I wanted to remind you that the stairs bend at an 45 degree angle at the bottom and that it leads toward the front of the foyer. Only thing here is that you’re not thinking how far that other room is away, because you are taken with the beauty of being on that bridge and overlooking either the family room or the foyer/living room. I remember remarking to Libby that I was disappointed not being able to see too much into the kitchen from the second floor, but the sight of these other two just mentioned is dizzying. Again … let’s mention pillars! Oh, and before we leave this situation totally, I want to mention there is one hall linen closet and the second upstairs bathroom has a nice tub and shower and a double sink. Lots of places to get cleaned up. Hmm? Oh and all three of the smaller bedrooms have nice double sliding closets and it looks like the one being made into the library is just a little longer well now looking at it both bedroom #2 and #4 are a bit bigger, so I guess that would mean leaving bedroom #4 the more masculine of the two. We are really going to want to do neutral, but the more feminine of the two should be closer to the master bedroom. It has to do with far off notions of protectionism.

Hmm, we haven’t thought too much of these two guest rooms yet. I think in both I’d like to have one Queen-size bed. And, we’d like to have a low slung dresser with mirror and a mirror on the back of the door or it would be really cool to have a free-standing dressing mirror. That be cool cuz if people were there it would be because they were formally visiting. I would also like to have a TV in each room and a rocker. Let’s see how that would go. Both of the walls in bedrooms #2 and #3 are wider than taller, but not by more than 1 – 1 ½ feet and both of these bedrooms are the only upstairs bedrooms to the front of the house. They sit over the dining room and the living room.

I think I’d like both the beds on the east walls as I am facing them now. Then they will be away from the door as you walk in. They both have double sets of windows.

The dressers should be opposite the beds on the west wall, and the rocking chairs on the SW corner to the left of the windows. The windows are placed a little differently in the rooms, but we could have the stand-up mirror to the corner or between the windows depended on window location. As to the TV? Hmm, let’s think.

There’s room for double nightstands for each bed and the closets are both placed on
the north wall. Maybe we’d have to have a longer dresser in both and put the TV on top of that. That seems to make sense. You know the other possibility instead of having a rocker … well, maybe the rocker can sit next to the bed instead of the 2nd nightstand, and in that old rocker spot, we could put a little desk and chair … that would be nice for the guest. Yep you got it – it’s like decorating a hotel room.

Because that is pretty much the effect we want to give in that people can feel comfortable.

I’ve seen both my mother and father try to establish guest rooms, but they made the mistake of filling those rooms with junk in the closet and dressers and having other things going on in the room. I think that’s a wrong idea … if you want someone to feel comfortable … make sure everything is set-up just for them. We’re talking here maybe to the point of even putting little mini-coffee pots on each of the dressers.

I mean I really want people to come in and feel at home getting ready for the morning and for going down stairs. Some of that which is sitting around the room while getting ready. Coffee would be nice and so would a double set of chairs between desk and rocker. Yup yup … think we got it right … Feel much happier now.

Wow … we just got done taking medicine, using the washroom, and pouring more coffee for Rich and us. We showed him for a moment where the half wall is going in the library so we can look down at the family room as from a loft. That’s really what it’s going to become. And, we discovered that with it being directly over the office downstairs, that quite possibly we could put the same double doors going into it. Both rooms are 11’7 and then either 13’5” with the closet or 16’ Without a closet. I didn’t catch before this synchronicity of having both working rooms one on top another. Now seeing myself back on the stairs looking at each, I can see how cool it will be to have the double doors to the rooms. I can hardly wait to one day be looking at my house for real enthralled by the whole thing.

Ok, ok … calming down here again … the whole thing has just been done one first round. It’s time to sit back and look at the bigger picture, which leads me to trying to remember the conversation with Libby the seller. It was actually a roaming conversation because we talked the full distance around the place. I’d be busier comparing my mental notes while moving, but then we would stop to pause in trying to absorb the sense of some of the views - like looking in at the Master bedroom, or at the fireplace from the kitchen or one side or another of the balcony. The longest conversation was downstairs in the family room.

Oh too and we went down to the basement. It was nicely proportioned with high ceilings and large spaces for 3-4 rooms, or one or two major ones. I think that part would remain roughed in until someone had to come and live with us seriously.

I told Rich last night that we’d build in shelving into the loft library to make the best use of space and that he would inherit the old bookshelves. I told him they could be for one of two purposes the first would be if we wanted to store extra grocery items, and the other would be if he’d like to use them to be sorting out all his fishing equipment. Either would be fine with me. They will make a nice natural divider in the basement until something got going. The floor is cement down there so it’s really a rough basement, but there is a set-up already for plumbing to be down there. If Rich were going to be spending a lot of getting ready for fishing time down there he’s going to want a bathroom … Oh man aren’t we nice! Hhehehe
Ok, now back to Libby. I think I’d mentioned long time ago that she was rushed getting us across the street to the house, but it was because most likely there was only 40 minutes left til they closed. She let me go at my own pace once we got over to the house. I thought I was a little weird at one point, but she explained in good humor that that was the reaction of most people. I could see she’d been through the house quite a few times. She did say that this one was her favorite design. It didn’t take too long to figure out why … the place was stupendous. Oh, have we mentioned that already? Silly girl.

When we sat down in the family room, she went toward the love seat in front of the nook, and I thought it was too far to sit down on the opposite couch, so we sat at the large footstool that faced the fireplace. It had brought us a little closer to an intimate conversation. Throughout she’d asked feeder questions as to our situation and our plans and hopes. There was one question that captured the essence of our visit. She asked a question relating to a time line - maybe not so direct, but pretty close. I sidestepped it the first time, but then came back to it as I was starting to put the plans through in my head.

I told her about the situation with Rich and I about him going through a divorce and that it would most likely be then about spring the following year, before we could consider things seriously - although that wouldn’t stop us from planning. She said that after things were decided that it would take about 6 months to build the house. Yup, yup … this is from scratch dears! It would depend how early we could commit as to where the house would be built as to lots. We would need a little bigger lot in that we would want to have the three car garage, which is an add-on.

We also discussed the part about not knowing yet whether his soon to be ex wife would want to sell the house and move into something different, or whether we’d have to be carrying that mortgage debt. It would be a lot easier if she sold, but then that’s nothing to do with what we may or may not want. We’d have to be prepared as to the kind of financing or credit we could get one way or another.

She seemed to be interested in what we were saying and non-judgmental. She wasn’t overly aggressive. I liked her very much. She had a job to do, but you could tell she’d learn to personalize things. For the most part we controlled the conversation, though we were feeding into what we thought as a sales associate might be about –as to what needed to be discussed. We remember telling her about that it would be Rich the one that was going to own the house and that I would come up with a set amount of money I would be paying him each month like about that $1000, we’ve talked about before. She took good mental notes. I liked that she wasn’t prying or overly aggressive. I think that they’d have to take different stances in going into selling houses in this day and age, but she’d learned through whatever that she was in the business also to make people happy. The product pretty much sold itself.

About the time we were leaving we told her that this would then be our dream house and that we wouldn’t be looking for any other house … that all our energy would be in making this dream come true. We did talk about that the final decision would be Rich’s since it would be him taking out the mortgage. We told her that it would be a matter now of going over the situation until it could be worked out. We told her the biggest problem with the house was also its best part. Basically, that was the situation of having stairs … And, boy oh boy were the stairs grand! The point here immediately was that in our older age, we wouldn’t know if being on two floors was going to be a major problem. And, I think that Rich has felt some hardship in the stairs in that I think he’s experienced them more recently from his own house. But, then that is what makes this place so gosh darn cool is the space and overlooks throughout the house and the phantasmal sense of openness that we’ve mentioned many times already.

We had discussions too as we went as to what came and did not come with the house.

Like she explained the difference in floor coverings offered as natural to the house, but also the ones we’d have to pay extra for. I think we covered this before though. Things that were added on that I wish weren’t was that we’d have to pay like $7000 for the fireplace and extra maybe $12,000 for the garage. But, don’t quote me there it might have been less. I’m trying to think now what else was extra … oh I know one thing. There is an option to add 4’ to the family room. It’s a nice addition, but I wish that the larger size was a natural. She did say that a lot of the things that people liked about houses in general were already added.

Things like good floor coverings some of the appliances the soaking tub, extra stairs, etc. Oh, I remember another add on. The dishwasher and stove and such were regular, but the fridge was a $1200 add on. But, it was a nice fridge that we’d really want. So, let’s see what we’ve got here so far – Seems about $25,000 add-ons which would bring the house to $350,000 … that’s not super bad … I think the one we looked at with Rich in Elgin was about $100,000 add-ons to get the house we want which brought it to $450,000.

This location is better – newer and more exciting to us and the house was more special. Of course the other house was single family and this one wasn’t, but then that’s a risk that we’d have to take. I like the thought that one of the kids families could move in some day and that we’d if on our own without Rich move ourselves to the office. That option is still there in that there’s a first floor bath right next to the office. I would like for as LONG as possible to live in the luxury of upstairs. One other thing we could consider there.

My father had a stair lift added to his place. So, if necessary we could get something like that. It didn’t cost him anything because it was a part of one of his policies, but it stood aside the steps so you could still walk up it and it could be as long as the stairs. In his case it was only about 5 stairs, but I could see that being a possibility using the back stairs. That kind of settles everything for us - Just because there is that option. It makes it especially nice AND important that there is a back stair that is especially in this case very utilitarian.

Hehehe I just told Rich about the stair conundrum problem being over … he rubbed his head grinned and said oh I see. The best reason that Rich is getting through our obsessions here is that we agreed that we could consider the house hunting as a hobby. That helped him take pressure off. But, we told him what Dr. Marvin had said and here I’ll get into it just a little further. But, basically, that Dr. Marvin seemed very encouraged. He thought that if we dreamt it we could make it come to life and that was the nature of building on one’s dreams. He was very encouraging and said that it was only a matter of time and patience. He said that as we go toward the dream we start changing and adapting things so that it becomes possible. I thought here to an old book we’d read called the Social Construction of Reality by Peter Berger. Basically, it is this one step-at-time reality building that takes place as two couples or societies come together to adapt to one another.

It’s a little give and take, but always building to take on the ideals and necessary considerations of both parties to work out a joint solution advantageous to both.

I’m encouraged that Rich is letting us talk about it. Last night he said something about his dream to getting a boat. He was right in that it took a couple of years putting it together in his head, until it came to be the most natural step to be taking. Hehehe I just stopped to remind him and he said that he’s reading about deep-water bass. Heheheh he’s on the computer … we’re still listening to Christmas music and we’re smelling turkey … and we just reminded him of that part too. It’s pretty cool. This is my biggest dream fulfilled. Especially, after all those years of Rich not being able to see how things could work out in us being together.

Dr. Marvin said that we had a relationship with Rich in which I was the one to come up with these kinds of dreams and that Rich left to his own would never get past the humps because he takes so long in deciding things. We have a valid role in helping get him to a place I know deep in our hearts we both want to be. I had said maybe it was a female thing to want to nest. But, Dr. Marvin said that it was a human thing and that men liked to nest too. I think that Rich really wants to be the King of his own castle.

We also talked about me being manipulative … I forget Dr. Marvin’s immediate argument toward that, but basically, he said that we are planning and not manipulating. I think he liked manipulative as being underhanded and devious.

We’re not doing that … everything is above board. As we come up to new conclusions for the obstacles presented to us, we tell Rich where we are with it.

One of the other conversations with the lady … and I’m not sure here if we already told the story or not, but we told her after having driven the 1 hour and 20 minutes through rush hour traffic that that wouldn’t be something we wanted to do every day – then to calm her poor nerves AND ours, we told her about applying for other positions immediately the next day after we’d seen the place. I told her that was part of the thing putting the decision to a goal of the spring. We would have to work on getting a position where we could work at home. I know we could also gain a position out west at a place closer to Oswego, but then we would be defeating our purposes. One purpose was to get us out of working a daily grind in Chicago and the other purpose was to let us be in the castle of our dreams on a day to day basis with just going out periodically to fulfill other job contracts.

Hmm, I don’t think I’ve mentioned those other job prospects. I’m not sure if the positions are still over or we would qualify, but we checked out a couple of things. The first was the job of working as an advocate of the college I forget the term, but the person who helps and council students. Hmm, maybe we mentioned this already? Maybe not I think I posted it to Dr. Marvin and not here … but, just in case we missed it here, this is the position that we would be looking at. Oh yeah … that was the title learner Services Coordinator. I would absolutely love this job and it seems to be an on-line position, but we might be required to travel, which is very cool to me. We’d have no obstacles there except we’d need some new clothing, but we need that now, so let’s sail ahead!

JOB TITLE: Learner Services Coordinator

HOURS: A minimum of forty hours per week, plus other hours as may be necessary to complete job duties. A combination of day, evening, and weekend hours are mandatory. Schedules are set by the Dean of Academics and Learner Services.

EDUCATION: Bachelor’s degree required.

SKILLS Energetic; customer-oriented attitude; excellent organizational and computer

EXPECTATIONS: skills; self-motivated and goal oriented; ability to facilitate team effort as well as ability to work independently; excellent written/oral and interpersonal communication skills; ability to work quickly to meet deadlines; strong work ethic, and willingness to learn and improve in all aspects of the position.

DUTIES Be familiar with the objectives, requirements, and content of distance learning

RESPONSIBILITIES: courses offered by the university.
Proactively contacts students on a regular basis to build and maintain rapport and serves as the student’s advisor as a first point of contact to ensure questions are answered and concerns are resolved.

Ensures continuing and re-entry students are advised and registered according to proper course placement and to the quarterly goals.
Assists the Academic department with contacting students who need to appeal their
suspension status and provides guidance to at-risk students to ensure student success.

Confirms students’ change of registrations to ensure accuracy for processing.
Enro ll students in CampusVue, update student contact information, enter assessment test scores, and other daily processes.

Develop thorough knowledge of DL website, processes and university policies to be used daily in university services and assist in maintaining up-to-date information.
Serves as a liaison between the region and the distance learning campuses.

Refers students to tutor services when needed and provides guidance on utilizing the online tutoring service.

Assists students with questions related to WebCT navigation, library services,
Illuminate, and other low-level technical issues.

Provides students with information on how to obtain course materials such as MBS Direct and Instructional Materials.

Other duties as assigned by the Dean of Academics and Learner Services.

REPORTS TO: Learner Services Team Leader

If you are interested in this position, please send a letter of interest, application and resume to Angie Clements at the above address.
DL

Man-o-man … would be pretty cool. I just read over it again now – and I have no doubt I can fulfil this position. I would very much like the change of working with adults and being in a situation of encouraging learning more than anything else that has to do with people not being in well health. I think I could be very good and I know I have the computer and coordinating skills to do this kind of work. I would have to come up with new systems and stick to the rigorous needs of the clientele, but I’m imagining I could do this and especially, I imagine doing this from the new house. I don’t know yet if it’s like entry level paid work or whether it’s a bigger position. I do know BA is required. The university is based in South Dakota, so maybe some of my travels would be taking me in that direction. That be pretty cool, or maybe they would have to send me sometimes to other states to set up a educational promotion. That be nice too.

I’m trying not to get too excited here, we haven’t even sent in the application and now it will have to wait until after the vacation, because I still don’t have either V’s or Dr. Woollcott’s permission to use them as a reference – and if and when I do get one of them, I’m going to have to re-print the document. At least this too gave me an area of interest that might be tried out with other on-line universities. I did look for a few and I’m not sure all of them are thought of as on-line positions and some of the schools seem to have more of academic advisors with master’s degrees. So, we’re still in the stage of holding our breath.

I think most of the planning and figuring toward this has been in the car, but basically the thought is that if I could get this job, I would start after giving sister a month’s notice if possible. Then I would try to establish a connection where I could or would still be doing CARF, but most of it would be done from home, which isn’t really a problem all the data and entry stuff would transfer. I have a thought that I could go into St. Rose Center like once a week or so. I would leave after rush hour and try to miss it as well coming home. I would like to start it from our home here in Brookfield and then of course transfer it to our dream place when that becomes available.

I think one of the hardest things would be to give up my office. But, I’m sure I would have to unless Sister would make it both Rich’s and our office and she would free up the complete other office to the new Q. But, I see most likely that Rich and I would be sharing the office with two desks. I would hope to get my computer switched over and the new Q get a new one. I’d have to be very patient without having the extra space, but I would maintain control over the shelves where the CARF books would be kept … that would have to stay in the new person’s office. Getting that office though would be a highlight of someone new coming in and because neither Rich or I would be in every day she’d really have a lot of privacy, and might not mind then us coming in to keep her a little company. But, most of the time in would be gathering resources or having meetings.

I think you could get by with this in the new job, because it clarifies that we would be working days and/or evenings and/or weekends. That suits me fine. I don’t mind a schedule that offers some change-up – especially working from home. This though is the reason that we figured that we’d have to share the main office on the first floor with Rich. Since I would be home most days and he’d be home some days, it would be important to stay on the first floor for ease of use.

Hmm, Rich just found a channel – 205 that has a moving landscape picture and the sounds of a stream with birds occasionally sounding. That’s interesting … a little less pressure than the pulling sounds of X-mas music.

Hmm, I wanted to mention one other thing while we’re here on a break. We got an email from Brandi. You know the old person that had the Leadership group? She wanted to say that she hoped we were doing well, and that she was 5 ½ months pregnant and she was looking for more information on real or imagined drama that might be going on at St. Rose. I could very much see her wanting to stay in some kind of loop and I imagine her talking to other employees. I answered the letter back in a nice way which was heart-felt, but I disregarded any information she wanted to gain from gossip at work. I don’t partake in that AT work, why would I do it in my free time? When I talk about work stuff like now, it’s to work out my own part in it. I appreciated that I could send Brandi a nice note on Thanksgiving, but that was enough of that. I think St. Rose is doing better without her and with Karla. Karla has seemed to mature a lot – and there hasn’t been a day where I haven’t appreciated her for her intelligence and sound senses. If she’s involved in the drama at all, I happily don’t know about it. So that’s pretty much of that.

Ok, getting back to our comfort level here … better figure out where we are again - Ahh, the giving up of our office. If I could have this other position and it paid similarly or even better, than I would take it in a heartbeat. Rich says that I’d still have to leave the house, but I would figure that’s what the gym is all about.

Ok, I think we’re in need of a break as much as to think more casually about the feeling of being around the house. We might have started this before … I think I remember saying something about a morning routine. But, now that I’ve got the house images sketched in for you, it’s a good time to look into some of the softer-lined feelings. Hmm, I thought Rich was being quiet. He’s got one foot up on the couch and one foot down and somehow he seems to have let his eyes slip closed. I imagine he’s been tuned to water sounds as being bedtime sounds. Hehehe he’s such a gigglerush. Maybe I should have made that extra coffee a little sooner.

Rich talked a little bit lately of the traveling we would be doing for the fishing.

He’s talked of going down to Texas over to Missouri and Arkansas and as far east as his aunt and uncle in South Carolina. I know when he says this he means he’s going to take the boat with him. I think the conversation came up in talking about leaving our house and getting out – not wanting to spend all the weekends at home.

I know this is going to be a new reality, because I’d much rather be with Rich than think of him being out there all alone. I think the safety part is there as well as the conversational part. It’s good to have a buddy with you. I know that on the times he’ll want to be with his friends, I’ll be left behind, but then I will like those times to because being left behind would be so great. And, then too if I got the job at the University then I would have to work some weekends. That really suits me fine.

Again I like the change-up.

Ok, so let’s get to a place that I would like to imagine in our house, I think that this is going to be happening more and more often. I told Rich a little bit ago that if we move to the house that I will be domesticated and clean and cook. That be a little more probable if I were going to be home most days. I could imagine doing it more as I were going along – like I’ve been able to when paying attention to the Flylady. I would try to work in that kind of routine – or that when I needed a break from work, I would just get up and do it. I sorta feel like that now, but I don’t want to wake Rich. Hmm, maybe if I go into the kitchen I could unload the dishwasher for him. That be nice!

There that felt nice and we didn’t even wake him up. We did the dishwasher, reloaded a few things, washed the counter and picked-up the table. My back was starting to feel it though and that with a few other signs and being still at the weight 250 is pretty much telling us that we have to get back to the gym. Hmm.

AHA! We’re back. We talked to Rich a little, but pretty much we got ourselves together. It is now 10:30 am and we’ve taken our shower and gotten dressed and experimented with a TINY bit of makeup – we used powder on our face and then we put on the tiniest bit of perfume. Yup, yup I got it … but probably haven’t used it for about 10-12 years. Let’s just think that it matures and ages well. We just put a tiny squirt on one of our wrists and then rubbed from there to our other wrist and from their our neck. We’re trying to get over that every whiff we can smell it.

We’re kinda hoping that it helps counter the smells of smoking. Yup, haven’t thought of that for a bit, but am right now because we are going in toward it.

There’s a bit of a problem though. Rich’s stepfather has taken away his mother’s alcohol. Like Lordy not today! I think she fell again a couple of days ago because apparently she’d drank too much. She’s called a couple of times asking for Rich to bring some alcohol … I told Rich that we needed to bring two bottles if three people were drinking, but he’s saying just one and that will be for a toast. I think he’s headed my first day to be a disaster. He’s just sitting their smug-like saying you gotta let me handle this. But, it’s not HIS first impression we’re worried about.

Maybe Bud will give his mother at least one glass before we get there to steady her nerves. Why pick THIS day for her to not drink. She’s been an alcoholic for 50 years! Damn, Damn.

Ok, now calm down … we just turned around and asked Rich if he didn’t think maybe WE would need to get a little drunk. He just smiled so we frowned on him saying it woulda probably helped our cuteness. That’s his explanation of how we look. Not pretty, not beautiful, just cute. Hmm, was that REALLY the look I was going for?

I went through all my jewelry. Yes, there were found about 3 ½ necklaces and odd earrings. We skipped the earrings because we thought grimly of our ears not be pierced for over 10 years. But, we found a necklace that would work. Actually it’s the only one that fit. It’s a little gold chain with little gold hearts with little pearl like things in them. I’m pretty sure this is one of the necklaces that one or more of my boys got when they were little, but that was calming to me. She’ll have to guess whether I own real pearls. Fortunately here we’re hoping that in this case she’s blinder then not. Not wishing bad on her, just we figure we might be more attractive if we were a little fuzzy. Ya know? I just don’t know what she’d do with cute from an alcohol-starved view. Sheesh.

But for the most part we’re doing pretty well. Pshwoo the last call was only Chris … he’s worried about his sweet potatoes. He seems to be cooking his mother’s Thanksgiving dinner. It’s a male Prykop thing I think.

Hehehe we just talked to Rich again for a while. I told him to be patient with me as we are with him. We listened through to this part where he explained a fish map and all the different depth levels. I told him I would learn from him and I told him we should be putting things into a data base. He said something about the fish finder being for that. Well, I figure if that’s giving us numbers than I could do something with it on the computer.

AHA! We’re looking at our Microsoft Access for the first time. That’s their data base. We wanted to study it for a bit so we took out their Home Inventory List.

Thought hmm, that be fun to play with, hmm?

AHA! We're back but just for a sec. We been turkey soup eating and gravey stirring. Now Rich says it's time to go to Mom's ... wish us luck!